Thursday, January 8, 2009

Bern Brent makes a point

Below is a copy of an email sent to me by Mr Bern Brent of Canberra. Mr Brent is a former internee of Tatura Camp and, to the best of my knowledge, a "Dunera Boy". Mr Brent makes some interesting points and, because of their value to the historical context, I have included them here.


Please note that readers are invited to add comments at the bottom of each page. All contributions are welcome, particularly if they contribute to the store of knowledge on this subject.








Hi Laurie,

The two Hay lists are interesting because in the Dunera literature incorporating many Dunera myths, one speaks almost invariably of Jewish people. In so far as among the Germans and Austrians interned in the UK in May-June 1940 and eventually sent to Australia on the Dunera, most were Jewish, that would be correct.

That there were a number of non-Jewish people who received a B and C classification at the beginning of the war (those who received an 'A' were interned at the beginning of the war) is well known. However, nobody knows what was the proportiopn of non-Jewish people among the Dunera 'anti-nazi' internees. The lists
provide a clue for researchers of whom Professor Kwiet is, I think, one.

We know how many people were in each of the two Hay camps. Here we have lists of people who were not Jewish. What I would like you to add to the list was the fact, mentioned on top in each instance, that the two lists are of Christians who are NOT Catholics and NOT C.of E. My point is that we had a good number of Austrians in the camp and of course many southern Germans are Catholic. I have yet to come across an Austrian who is Protestant.


Also, for researchers, my experience in Tatura camp 3 (I was not in Hay) could be mentioned. When the three ministers of the cloth came and asked for lists, not more than two thirds bothered to have their names added to such a list. As a result of which our camp poet wrote 'Sei Fromm' (Be Pious) for all those, Jewish, Protestant and Catholic, people who had not volunteered their names did NOT receive the goodies which arrived in camp from the various congregations (clothes, food, books, etc.).

Among the researchers for whom your website is usful, most would be German speakers. If you think it makes sense, I will pass on to you Oswald Volkmnann's little ditty as mentioned above.

Thank you for making the material available on the internet.

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Sunday, December 21, 2008

Alcorn Collection - Hay Internment Camp Artifacts

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This link should direct you to images of the Alcorn Hay Internment Camp Collection that do not yet appear on this blog. If difficulty is experienced please email me at lauriefavelle1@bigpond.com

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Saturday, December 13, 2008

Rev. Alcorn's Autograph Book - Hay Camp 1941 - Part 6




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Rev. Alcorn's Autograph Book - Hay Camp 1941 - Part 5




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Rev. Alcorn's Autograph Book - Hay Camp 1941 - Part 3




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Rev. Alcorn's Autograph Book - Hay Camp 1941 - Part 2




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Rev. Alcorn's Autograph Book - Hay Camp 1941 - Part 1

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Hay Internment Camp - Camp 8 Christian Internees 1941- Images of Original Documents



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Hay Internment Camp - Camp 8 Christian Internees 1941 - Alphabetical Transcript from original document

Aberbach, Theodor - Old Catholic - hut 19
Ahrend, Gerhard - Church of En. - hut 30
Alexander, Heinz - Protestant - hut 3
Altschul, Franz - Christ. Commun. - hut 15
Baelz, Robert - Christian, no denomination - hut 16
Behrens, Bernhard - Christian, no denomination - hut 16
Bergfeld, Hans - Lutheran - hut 4
Boehm, Ralph - C of E - hut 8
Bruehl, Hans - Protestant - hut 18
Cahn, Franz - Unitarian - hut 25
Callomon, Walter - Protestant - hut 2
Cossmann, Gerhard - C of E - hut35
Czarnikow, Horst - Protestant - hut 1
Dannenberg, Alfred - Protestant - hut 21
Defieber, Oskar - Calvinist - hut 21
Doring, Paul - Protestant - hut 32
Dschenffzig, Peter - Methodist - hut 11
Eckes, Frank - Protestant - hut 21
Eirich, Friedrich - Protestant - hut 23
Eisenberg, Adolf - Protestant - hut 31
Eisig, Konrad T - Protestant - hut 2
Erdoes, Erich - C of E - hut 14
Feder, Hans Werner - Presbiterian - hut 22
Fischer, E - Old Catholic - hut 18
Fischl, Eugen - Protestant - hut 13
Friedenheim, Curt - Protestant - hut 1
Fruend, Heinrich - Lutheran - hut 32
Fuchs - hut 8
Goldmann, Bernhard - Baptist - hut 18
Graupner, Felix - Protestant - hut 32
Gurland, Hans Heinrich - Lutheran - hut 4
Hamburger, Ulrich W - Lutheran - hut 31
Heidorn, Wilhelm - Protestant - hut 21
Hemer, Nicolaus - Protestant - hut 27
Hirschfeld, Ludwig - Protestant - hut 13
Huppert, Peter - C of E - hut 27
Jacobson, Dr Erwin - Protestant - hut 23
Kerner, Erich - C of E - hut 21
Kessler, Alfred - Protestant - hut 17
Koblitz, Fritz - Protestant - hut 1
Koch, Walter - Protestant - hut 2
Krantz, Bruno - Protestant - hut 21
Krause, Ernst Adolf - Protestant - hut 2
Landauer, Alfred - Presbiterian - hut 21
Lehmann, Peter Dietrich - Protestant - hut 25
Lewinsky, Max - Protestant - hut 23
Lindau, Hans - Protestant - hut 16
Lindheimer, Paul Peter - C of E - hut 36 - (possible AKA Land or Landheimer)
Marcus, Hans Wilhelm - C of E - hut 2
Markus, Dr Max - Presbiterian - hospital
Marx, Karl - C of E - hut 10
Marx, Otto - Presbiterian - hut 35
Mayer, Kurt - Protestant - hut 1
Muehlich, Georg - C of E - hut 17
Muenz, Kurt - C of E - hut 29
Mugdan, Robert - Protestant - hut 35
Nadel, Georg - C of E - hut13
Nell, Gerhard - Lutheran - hut 31
Nissels, Walter - Protestant - hut 22
Oliver, L. R. - C of E - hut 10
Oppenheim, Hans Otto - Society of Friends - hut 19
Rathgeber, Ernst - Christ. Commun. - hut 12
Rechnitz, Wilhelm - C of E - hut 15
Reiners, Wilfrid - Protestant - hut 12
Reisner, Alexander - Christ. Science - hut 30
Riefenstahl, - Presbiterian - hut 23
Rieser, Ralf - C of E - hut 10
Rittermann, Michael - Methodist - hut 19
Rosinsky, Charles - Protestant - hut 11
Schlosser, Hans - Lutheran - hut 35
Schreuer, Rudolf - Lutheran - hut 36
Schreuer, Walter - Lutheran - hut 36
Suessmann, Alfred - Protestant - hut 21
Tisch, Wilhelm - Protestant - hut 21
Ullmann, Richard - Protestant - hut 2
Waldsax, Dr Reinhard - Presbiterian - hospital
Weinwurm, Max - Old Catholic - hut 20
Wohlfeld, Dr Heinrich - Protestant - hut 23

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Hay Camp 7, February 8 1941. List of Christian Internees - Alphabetical Transcript from original document

  1. Altmann, Guenter -Farmer -hut 24
  2. Altmann, Paul - Electrical Engineer B.Sc. - hut 36
  3. Arnstein, Hans - Engineer - hut 36
  4. Baerwald, Werner - Musician - hut36
  5. Bamberger, Wilhelm - Coach Body builder - hut 2
  6. Beer, Franz - Mechanical Engineer - hut 36
  7. Behrendt, Dr. Felix - Mathametician Actuary - hut 36 - Released
  8. Berg, Robert - Student of Philology - hut 36
  9. Berg, Fritz - Engineer - hut 36
  10. Berlin, Paul - Farmer - hut 16
  11. Bernstein, Heinrich - Journalist - hut 2
  12. Borinski, Dr. Fritz - Lecturer of Political & Social Science - hut 31
  13. Boschwitz, Ullrich - Author - hut 36
  14. Brandeis, Juergen - Student - hut 32
  15. Bukowitz, Stefan - Fur & Skin Merchant - hut 24
  16. Carlebach, Peter - Methodist - hut 29
  17. Clusmann, G H - Sculptor - hut 25
  18. Erlanger, Franz - Clerk - hut 27
  19. Ewald, Arnold - Student of Natural Science - hut 22
  20. Federer, Heinz - Plumber's Apprentice - hut 33
  21. Federn, Ilmari - Philologist - hut 36
  22. Friedheim, Heinrich - Commercial Student - hut 27
  23. Furth, Richard - Woollen Manufacturer - hut 35
  24. Gernsheim, Helmut - Photographer FRPS - hut 23
  25. Goldschmidt, Dr. Hans E - Publisher - hut 35
  26. Grieshaber, Julius - Asphalter - hut 16
  27. Grieshaber, Adolf - Paint Sprayer - hut 16
  28. Guttmann, Carl - Engineering Draughtsman - hut 33
  29. Hager, Gustav - Electrical Engineering - hut 35
  30. Hamburger, Gerhard - Radio Engineer - hut 36
  31. Heckroth, Hein - Painter - hut 25
  32. Heilner, Wolfgang - Electrical Engineer - hut 21
  33. Herz , Alec - Student of History & Slavonic- hut 29 - Released ?
  34. Hoffmann, Herbert - Book Seller - hut 2
  35. Horn, Peter - Engineer's Trainee - hut 8 - Released
  36. Jaskulewicz, Gerhard Medical Student - hut 28
  37. Karbasch, Rudolf Henry - Toolmaker's Apprentice - hut 28
  38. Katz, Werner - Composer & Musician - hut 18
  39. Koenigsberger, Peter - Solicitor's Articled Clerk - hut 20
  40. Koenigsberger-Maassen, Rolf - Commercial Artist - hut 21
  41. Koestenmann, Robert - Farm Student - hut 17 - Released
  42. Kollar, Rolff - Student of Medicine/Farmer (cowman) - hut 12
  43. Kuehlenthal, Heinz - Clerk - hut 24
  44. Ladewig, Dr. Paul E - Export correspondent - hut 35
  45. Lanczi, Edward - Student of Natural Science - hut 15
  46. Lehner, Peter - Petroleum Geologist/B.Sc. A.R.S.M. - hut 26
  47. Lipmann, Erich - Export Merchant - hut 35
  48. Lipmann, Bruno - Export Merchant - hut 35
  49. Loewenstein, Fritz - Student of Mechanical Engineering - hut 22
  50. Margulies, Heinz - Pharmaceutic Process Worker - hut 28
  51. Mayer, Otto Hans - Clerk - hut 24
  52. Mayer, Edfrred - Actor & Writer - hut 26
  53. Meyer, Hans Joachim - Optical Machanician/Farm Student - hut 25
  54. Meyer, Friedrich - Student of Economics - hut 35 - Released
  55. Mysa, Ludwig Carl - Secretary - hut 24
  56. Nauen, Hans - Merchant - hut 19
  57. Neufeld, Rudolf - Artist - hut 24
  58. Ostberg, Kurt - Student of Modern Languages - hut 23
  59. Preminger, Franz - Student of Mechanical Engineering - hut 27
  60. Reich, Hans - Tool Maker - hut 27
  61. Ries, Eduard - hut 17
  62. Rink, Arnold - Student - hut 33
  63. Robinow, Herman - Bank Clerk - hut 32
  64. Rothfels, Dr Kurt - Judge - hut 24
  65. Rubens, Dr. Heinz - Agriculturist - hut 28
  66. Ruh, Anton - Stone Printer & Welder - hut 2
  67. Ruppin, Gerhard - Machine Fitter - hut 29
  68. Schaedlich, Kurt - Teacher of Modern Languages - hut 20
  69. Schick, Ernst - Plumber & Electrician - hut 33
  70. Schmidt, Gerhard - Student of Chemistry - hut 36 - Released
  71. Schneider, Ulrich - Laboritory Assistant - hut 32
  72. Schoenlicht, Max Martin - Agent (Motor Cars) - hut 29
  73. Schwabach, Dorian Erik - Bank Clerk - hut 29
  74. Schwabe, Wolfgang - Bank Clerk - hut 20
  75. Skaller, Friedrich - Instructor of Agriculture - hut 28
  76. Someruga, Lorenz - Chemist / Presbyterian - hut 33 - (orig. typed as "v. Someruga")
  77. Sommerfeld, Kurt (?) - Farm Worker - hut 28
  78. Stadlen, Peter - Pianist - hut 36 - Released
  79. Stadlen, Erich - Social Worker - hut 36 - Released
  80. Stuebs, Alwin - Author - hut 25
  81. Teltscher, George - Free Lance Artist - hut 26
  82. Weber, Jan - Solictor's Articled Clerk LL.B - hut 26
  83. Weiss, Erich - Intrument Maker - hut 36
  84. Weisz, Peter - Shipping Clerk - hut 24
  85. Wundsch, Harro - Surveyor's Assistant - hut 28
  86. Wurmser, Alfred - Electrical Engineering/Artist/Draughtsman - hut 34
  87. Zeitz, Wolfgang - Chemical Assistant - hut 32
  88. Zinn, Siegfried - Electrical Engineer - hut 24

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